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You Can’t Call Yourself A Democracy When You Have To Answer To The Corporate Cheque Book.
January 22, 2013, 6:18 am
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So I was very pleased to see that Obama has let sanity prevail and taken action against the ridiculously liberal gun laws of the US.

While I am sure myopic fuckwits like like Alex Jones will act like this is an act of war on American citizens [no doubt bringing up the ridiculous ‘Is Obama American’ debate all over again], there was one bit of the new legislation that shocked me and that was that the Centre for Disease Control were now allowed to study gun violence.

Yes, ALLOWED.

You see previously, doctors had been banned from gathering data or discussing guns with patients under regulations backed by the National Rifle Association.

What the fuck!?

I know the NRA would claim it’s because they were worried fictitious ‘evidence’ would be produced, but those bunch of conspiracy peddlers are missing the point, because by doing that, it means people like me think they actually acknowledge the role gun ownership has on violent crime and simply wanted to stop this proof from reaching the masses.

I appreciate modern politics is full of lobbying and cosy financial arrangements and relationships, but when a group can make research into stopping violence, illegal – simply because it doesn’t suit their personal agenda – then I think you have the right to start asking who’s interests our governments are really serving.

Honestly, the more I see these sorts of things, the more I find people who criticise the Communist Government, laughable.


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The fact the NRA could create obstacles into valid research is disgraceful. Even if their involvement is less instrumental than the media claim, the fact DR’s were under some sort of restriction to explore this area is disgraceful. All this information makes me want the government to do is ban all guns, not just assault weapons, because the NRA obviously can’t be trusted to act responsibly.

Comment by Pete

“Conspiracy pedlars.” Nice.

Comment by Pete

Your last sentence is food for thought. Where people used to view it as good and evil, it may just be evil and evil.

Comment by Pete

I agree Pete. To be fair, I don’t know how much involvement the NRA had in this mad ruling – but to be honest, any involvement is bad enough and proves your point about ‘responsibility’, or lack of it.

Comment by Rob

Rob…
You have to understand that it is too late to do anything about guns in America. There are far more guns than people. I now live in Idaho, or, as I jokingly call it “The Fourth Reich.” There was a huge rally here yesterday in “Defense of the Second Amendment.” People showed up with fucking bazookas. They literally feel they have to defend themselves from the Communist, Fascist, Muslim, Gay, Pedophile President of the USA. You cannot reason with these people. They are fucking insane. Just like all the Empires that have preceded it, America will collapse from the center. IT IS FUCKING BROKE. It makes Greece look like the fucking Rothschild s. It has more poverty, bad health and people in prison than any other major nation… It also spends more on defense (why is it always fucking defense when it’s used for offense?) than everyone else combined. Money, money, fucking money… As Gordon Gecko once said… “Greed is good!” You got that fucking right Gordon. Time for e fucking drink.
Cheers/George “AdScam” Parker

Comment by George Parker

Hello George, I appreciate your argument but that should not mean the NRA have the right to stop research into violent crime.

As for putting restrictions on a category that has already overwhelmed the market. It may well seem futile but as I am sure you know, this is a move for the future, so should not be dismissed out of hand. Unfortunately the chances of this law being agreed by Congress is unlikely which makes the situation in America very bleak.

Comment by Lee Hill

+1

Comment by Pete

Lee…
American politics is very simple. If you want to get elected, and stay in office, then you have to keep your tongue firmly implanted up the arse of two lobbying groups… NRA and AIPAC. Irrespective of which party you belong to. And as both political parties are slightly to the right of Genghis Khan, it makes no fucking difference. Never forget, America has assassinated more presidents and
politicians than you’ve had hot dinners.

Comment by George Parker

There’s not much democracy when the deals are already in place.

Comment by Martin Ellis

“It makes greece look like rothschild”. You should be on the fox money show, that’s awesome.

Comment by DH

I might be coming to Idaho, maybe you can show me around all the areas that I would basically hate.

I totally get your point about places like that being a ‘fear culture’. After thinking their shit didn’t stink for 100 years, any changing of the guard will naturally be interpreted as the basis for war.

If I was the government, I’d start making sure schools started included broader world events / cultures in the syllabus because some of these people act with the same myopic aggression as the “terrorist groups” they so openly despise.

See Alex Jones.

Comment by Rob

Rob..
The wold’s greatest potato vodka, and wonderful mountains, rivers, forests and Nazi chicks. What more could you want.
Cheers/George

Comment by George Parker

It sounds awfully similar to Portland.

Comment by Rob

Robert. If that news was upsetting to discover, here are two more to add to America’s shame.

http://tinyurl.com/arge565

http://tinyurl.com/b3e2psx

Comment by Lee Hill

Depressing reading.

Comment by Pete

That’s tragic. It’s probably not to be unexpected, but it’s still tragic.

Comment by Rob

I bet the banks are love the NRA for taking the heat off them for a while.

Comment by DH

I wonder what the banks have got the governments to stop or change to suit their needs? My guess is its less to do with paranoia and more to do with boosting their profits.

Good point on democracy vs communism Rob, but even communism is capitalism these days isn’t it?

Comment by DH

It would probably bring down the government if we found out.

Comment by Pete

You raise a great point Dave. The banks must be loving the spotlight being turned on someone else. Then they are used to riding out the storm of controversy so they can go back to their usual practices. As will the NRA sadly.

Comment by Pete

Yep … in a lot of ways, communism has become capitalism, but that’s mainly from a ‘spending/disposable income’ perspective, not necessarily from a fundamental cultural attitude.

At least not yet.

You might find it funny that a while ago, Beijing banned all luxury outdoor ads as if to remind people [or to not get accused by people] that they were still a Communist country.

Of course, the ban didn’t last long, but it is funny/interesting to see actions like this being taken – if only for understanding the struggle the Government have with driving wealth and managing the communist beliefs.

Comment by Rob

Another example of how the West oversimplify what it going on in China.

That temporary luxury ad ban is hysterical though.

Comment by Pete

I find this post depressing. Specifically, the information contained within this post. Maybe the 2nd Ammendment protectors (despite having little to do with protecting the 2nd Ammendment) would prefer America to abide by the laws of that time. It would interesting to witness how long it would take before they whined they were old and outdated.

Comment by George

That’s a great idea. If they’re so keen to live by the rules set in 1791, let them live by EVERY rule set in or around 1791. Let’s see how ‘fair’ they think that is.

Comment by Rob

Don’t make the mistake thinking these people actually evolved since 1791. Their guns and technology are the only things that did. They would have no problem abiding to these laws. They have 16 year olds on death row.

Comment by Paul

To quote Gordon Gekko, “Now you’re not naive enough to think we live in a democracy now are you Bud?”

Comment by northern

What is even more depressing is the likelihood that congress will stand in the way of the reforms and so the endless cycle of death and debate will continue. Democracy is an illusion, nothing more.

Comment by George

That assumes there’d be a majority in favour of these sesnible ideas. As George P pointed out that’s not as obvious as we’d hope.

Comment by John

A majority of the population that is.

Comment by John

Fair point John. In addition people tend to cast votes based on their immediate personal needs rather than the good of the country or a longer term vision. I’m even more despondent now.

Comment by George

It’s difficult isn’t it?
The Athens version of democracy, which probably can only work in small states was based on representative exactly representing the will of the people.
The modern parliament version is based a little more on allowing a little responsibility to some who (apparently) know a little better.
I guess that what ‘a little’ is main problem
In the UK I certainly don’t think using Shock Doctrine tactics to bring in radical reform that wasn’t in anyone’s manifesto is remotely this.
Nor is the shocking refusal of Tea Party folk to acknowledge they’re a tiny minority.

Anyway

Comment by northern

Andy’s going through a bad enough time without you adding to it with all this chatter on democracies failings.

Comment by DH

I didn’t mean to make light of Andy’s situation. Things don’t always come out as you mean when it’s written down.

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